Usenet Newsgroups: Anachronistic Service or Useful Communication Tool?

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alt.politics.usa.constitution as seen in
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Earlier this week ITS announced that it would be taking down the Usenet news server as of December 5, 2007. In a fit of nostalgia, I opened up my newsreader (Mozilla) to leave a farewell message on cwru.general. Oddly enough, my message got a response; others (not many) were still using Usenet! This led me to wonder what had happened to newsgroups. Did the generation that grew up on the Web not know about newsgroups, or did they know about them but prefer the Web? In this age of Web 2.0, where some update their Facebook status by the hour, users pose questions on discussion boards such as http://forum.case.edu, and writers merge their Twitter, Pownce and Jaiku posts into central RSS feeds that can be shared on their Tumblr blogs, is there still a place for Usenet news?

I think perhaps there is. But before we ponder that, perhaps we need to review—for those who don't know—what Usenet is/was all about.

History

Many users today think of the World Wide Web and the Internet as being interchangeable. But as most of you know, the WWW is only one of many protocols used on the Internet. Back in the era before the WWW (which most users didn't access until 1994-95), Usenet was one of the most popular features of the Internet. To some it still is.

First created in 1979, Usenet allows users to share thoughts and ideas with one another on a variety of topics ranging from the Internet itself to the latest episode of CSI. While T. V. viewers now discuss their favorite show on Web-based forums, in those days folks dissected X-Files episodes on alt.tv.x-files. (Actually they still do.)

How Usenet is used

As one uses a Web browser to surf the Web, one uses a newsreader to subscribe to and read/respond to newsgroups. Some news readers are stand-alone programs, while others are built into e-mail programs or Web browsers and Internet suites. Once the reader is installed, the user configures it to connect to a news server just as one would configure an e-mail program to use a certain e-mail server. Most Internet service providers offer news server access.

With the newsreader installed and configured to access the appropriate server, users can then subscribe to any of thousands of newsgroups based on their interests. This will be familiar to those of you who use RSS readers to read blogs. With a newsreader you would typically call up a searchable list of the newsgroups provided by your server and subscribe to those you like. Once subscribed you would select a group from your subscription list and download the latest headers (subject lines, that link to messages) to read the various posts. From there you can respond to an existing discussion or start a new thread, just as you would on a discussion forum, but more similar to e-mail in that you can include attachments.

There are thousands of newsgroups available on the internet with topics ranging from alt.tv.survivor to alt.politics.usa.constitution. Many of these will be available through your Internet Service Provider's news server, but some may be limited to certain servers.

To learn more about using Usenet newsgroups refer to the resources listed at the bottom of this entry.

Is Usenet still viable?

Given the research I've done today, Usenet seems to be alive and well—particularly in certain circles. Those circles would be those interested in file sharing. As I've been exploring this issue I've noticed two trends:

  • Newsreaders such as Binary Boy geared towards optimizing music, picture and movie sharing
  • Uncensored News Servers, such as Tera News offering uncensored access to groups, anonymous posting and firewall counter measures

I'd like to think that the above are being used to provide more efficient news reading or to give access to users living in countries with unreasonably strict censorship laws; but I'm guessing these folks are making their money by offering an easy way for people to trade naughty pictures and pirated media. With prices for some servers ranging anywhere from $7 to $49 (and up, depending on download limits) per month, I don't think folks are signing up to share their grandmother's bundt cake recipes.

What about the rest of us? Is Usenet still a good way to share information, discuss politics and find out how to clean the headlight lenses on your '96 Passat? I think it could be. This evening I installed Mozilla's Seamonkey Internet Suite, on my home computer, to use as my newsreader and subscribed to some of the groups I'd read in the past such as alt.www.webmaster. The group was alive and well, filled with the same kind of reasonable questions, helpful advice, spam and people who shouldn't be thinking of starting a Web design business, as it always was. Newsgroups are like that, but so are discussion boards. Some members will be knowledgeable, others never will be, and some just want to push their product or start a flame war. A lot of good information can still be traded.

If one is looking for discussion geared towards very specific topics I think Usenet works well for two reasons.

  • One Stop Shopping: One can subscribe to groups on cars, sports, T. V. shows, politics, philosophy, etc. and view them all in one place as one does with RSS readers.
  • Threaded Discussion: This format is really easy to use. You are presented with a list of headers, so you can choose which topic to read, and then all the messages in the thread are listed below (the way this works may depend on your reader). Google Groups offers Web-based access to newsgroups, but if there are more than a few messages in a given topic it can be very hard to follow. Google presents them in full in order, rather like Gmail. But when you get a few hundred this also involves multiple pages and can be tricky to navigate.

Perhaps I'm just being nostalgic, but this still seems like a pretty efficient way to communicate. Back in the day, I got a lot of good information from newsgroups, and I think if one chooses a group with an active, knowledgeable subscriber-base one still can. And if that is the case one can use these to network, share ideas, promote Web sites and blogs (but only in the context of providing meaningful content to the group) just as one can with Web-based services.

What do you think? Is there a place for Usenet in your social media world?

Usenet News Resources

P.S. When mentioning specific newsgroups I linked to them using the news protocol. These will only work if you have configured a newsreader in your browser and are using a server that includes that particular group.

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8 Comments »
  1. How is Usenet different from current forums? I visit one forum to discuss current news, another forum for virtual world economic discussions, another forum for computer related issues, etc. I can get RSS feeds from these forums, I can post discussion questions, receive emails when someone posts to a topic I'm interested in, etc. To someone that never used Usenet it seems like the same things are being accomplished.

    Comment by dave — November 8, 2007 @8:18 am

  2. Dave, I think people are using forums for similar reasons as they used Usenet, it's just the technology that's different. With Usenet, you open your reader (as you do for RSS feeds) read the posts, reply to them and start new threads, all within the reader. You don't have to follow a link out to the forum to make the comment. Everything happens in the reader while the data itself is decentralized. I think the Web forums became more popular, not because they were better or more efficient, but because people were going to the Web and that's where they found the forums. Most people didn't know Usenet was even there. As with all social media, content and audience are the important things. If you have a good crowd on your economic discussion forum, you'll stick with it. But if there is an active newsgroup on that topic you could read that as well.

    Comment by Heidi Cool — November 8, 2007 @10:40 am

  3. I got into Usenet quite late on, but things were still very active then back in 96-98. When you look at what Usenet offers, I could well imagine there still being a place for something as austere and retro as this...

    Comment by Wayne Smallman — November 8, 2007 @11:29 am

  4. USENET was designed as a "store and forward" network. It lent itself well to the days of UUCP and modems. In the days of unlimited bandwidth and direct (routed) connections between computers, the need for the "forward" part is greatly diminished. The format of the newsgroup and the many tools developed for USENET readers (threading, kill files, etc) are still very applicable today for other applications, such as e-mail list archives. The mailing list to newsgroup gateways in combination with a good news reader is much better than many/most of the web mailing list interfaces I have seen.

    Comment by Fuzzy — November 14, 2007 @6:55 pm

  5. I've been using news groups NNTP since the very first days. I remember the arguments at Columbia and other colleges over letting a music news group on. I also remember the Supreme Court ruling, many, many years ago, that stated Usenet service providers could not be held liable for the content on the servers. It was a huge ruling. It may also be why much of the "research" content isn't stuff you'd like your kids to be studying in college. Anyway, it is a technology that will one day, sadly, go away. It will continue on for a decade or so because it does still serve a purpose. Just look at the number of Microsoft, Cisco, Intel, and there are 53,000+ messages on the Autism support newsgroup.

    Comment by Dented Helmet — November 24, 2007 @11:44 pm

  6. I use http://www.newsdemon.com for my newsgroups provider. Their service has been growing for quite sometime so its clear that usenet is not dead just yet. I think a lot of people could likely get a lot of use out of it if they just gave it a shot, but its probably harder than some of the other social networking sites to get acquainted with.

    Comment by Trent — June 29, 2008 @7:05 pm

  7. i think newsgroups never will be an anachronoistic service. it is more then everything part of the internet and always will be. especially in germany you find many people who still use the newsgroup culture...

    Comment by usenet — July 17, 2008 @10:41 am

  8. I never ever post but this time I will,Thanks alot for the great blog.

    Comment by Ramon I. — August 30, 2009 @7:12 pm

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